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jbwarrior · Jun 14, 2008, 05:51 PM // 17:51

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Why are ppl pist off, because of a "legal" god mode

Stockholm · Jun 14, 2008, 06:05 PM // 18:05

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Originally Posted by jbwarrior

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Why are ppl pist off, because of a "legal" god mode

Because their "ecto studed e-peeeeeeeeeeens" ar shrinking

Bug John · Jun 14, 2008, 06:08 PM // 18:08

to the op : sorry, but you fail on the whole line

first, perma sf isn't god mode, there are many areas where monsters can kill you and/or you can't outdamage them

perma sf is just another farming build, chaos plains farming can be done by at least half of the other professions

"it's wrong to use a character just for one skill" > are you sure we're playing the same guild wars ?

btw, if you're not jealous or anything, why do you care about that ?

HawkofStorms · Jun 14, 2008, 06:25 PM // 18:25

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The current perma SF build is more overpowered then 55ing ever was. At least 55s could be beat by enchantment stripping, interupts, or heavy degen. Perma SF can only be beaten by the 4 skills that aren't spells that remove enchantments, and AoE damage (which can often be sidesteped or walked out of).

Yes, perma SFing is fun. Yes it is profitable. Is it good for the game? No.

count_vidal · Jun 14, 2008, 06:27 PM // 18:27

Its obious why gw wont nerf ursan or perma sf, the main skill, glyph of swiftness and ursan are both GW:EN, many people buy GW:EN for ursan and perma and we are on america were everithing revolves around getting money.
P.S. I love perma shadowing farmed 175 ectoes in 4 days, I personally enjoy having so much money I dont know what to do with it, its fun going to ascalon dis 1 and handing out money just telling people to do stuff.

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munky · Jun 14, 2008, 07:35 PM // 19:35

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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

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The current perma SF build is more overpowered then 55ing ever was. At least 55s could be beat by enchantment stripping, interupts, or heavy degen. Perma SF can only be beaten by the 4 skills that aren't spells that remove enchantments, and AoE damage (which can often be sidesteped or walked out of).

Yes, perma SFing is fun. Yes it is profitable. Is it good for the game? No.

how is perma sin anymore overpowered then 55? if you think only 4 skills can beat perma sin then thats kinda sad. any traps, sigs or aoe, and a few ranger skills. I am too lazy to go check all the skills but I know theres more then 4, the perma sin has as many counters if not more then 55 so no, its not overpowered when you look at 55, which has been in the game how long now... honestly the sin finally got something that makes it that much more worth playing, why dose everyone want to mess that up? not like its the first "godmode" build in the game, and yes it has counters whoever can't see that isen't looking.

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Age · Jun 14, 2008, 10:40 PM // 22:40

SF does nothing agianst [shield of judgement]

Sypherious · Jun 14, 2008, 11:29 PM // 23:29

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Originally Posted by phan

Hello ,

No this is not a QQ thread or a whine thread .

Let's assume that Guildwars is devided in 2 parts : PvP & PvE [each 50/50]

Why would Anet let 50% just enter godmode by pressing 3 skills .

If people can't see that this isn't good for a game .. well then its time for glasses .

Guildwars is a team game ; with 8 skills on your bar and 8 players in a team .
not 3 skills for Godmode .

Reactions I don't want to see ;

Make an assasin if your jealous . I have one and i don't really like him and yes it's wrong to use a char. for one skill .
lolz noob i needz ectos ; You farm mass Globs to buy nice and mostly expensive things . Do you think you will be happy if you join Random Arenas and all other 3 players have the same as you .
Anet has given up balance . I'm still hoping they haven't
No i'm not jealous because people are getting the nice & cool items . I don't have them , don't need them and i just played some PvE for fun (I heard PvP was serz bus).I think it's an achievement if I come home ; have 2 hours of spare time and i don't really feel like doing anything , i can load up 6 heroes and try and clear FoW . These new skills just ruined that =)

If you used Shadow Form, you wouldn't being making this stupid thread, with no point at all.

IMO, shadow form is fine. So many people QQ'ing about it "NERF IT, WAHHHH I DUN LIKE THE NEW SF BUFF CUZ I CANT USE IT, EHEHEEHEHEHE ECONOMOY IS RUINED, NOOOOOO WAHHHHH".

Buy factions, make a sin and use it. You won't be QQ'ing then.

God damn, I'm so sick of it.

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Yawgmoth · Jun 14, 2008, 11:56 PM // 23:56

imba skill is imba and must be nerfed, no matter if it's pve or pvp.

I see most stupid arguments in this thread too:

"If you don't like the skill don't use it"
LOL

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Originally Posted by jbwarrior

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Why are ppl pist off, because of a "legal" god mode

because it's just absuridiculous to have that in game.

there are a ton of reasons for nerfing what's imba and not a single reasonable one against.

Yes, after reading 30+ pages of threads about nerfing SF I haven't seen ANY SINGLE good reason NOT to nerf SF. They were only full of qq crybabies who want more easy mode, more fast easy ectoz, who don't care that degenerate playstyles ruin the game, who only care about own easy profit.

/nerf

BlackSephir · Jun 15, 2008, 12:05 AM // 00:05

So much hypocrisy. "Nerf SF, but dun nerf mah farmin buildz". How about nerfing ALL farming builds?

Sypherious · Jun 15, 2008, 12:43 AM // 00:43

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Originally Posted by Yawgmoth

They were only full of qq crybabies

Hey there, why don't you try using Shadow Form instead of judging it without trying it. Because that's what it really sounds like.

Most people who want SF nerfed don't have factions, and are jealous of other people using it.

Use it, then report back here, and tell us your opinion.

DarkGanni · Jun 15, 2008, 12:45 AM // 00:45

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Originally Posted by BlackSephir

So much hypocrisy. "Nerf SF, but dun nerf mah farmin buildz". How about nerfing ALL farming builds?

QFT^^

Also to the OP: How is this affecting your gameplay? Stop trying to ruin other people's fun, if you don't like SF simply don't play it. And Besides, SF isn't the only farm build around.

it's not harming anyone, except those high end traders with rare weapons. But after all ectoplasm was never meant to be a currency, players made it that way.

I like SF personally, I do UW only when I need some quick cash to buy something and I see nothing wrong with that.

- Ganni

Yawgmoth · Jun 15, 2008, 01:20 AM // 01:20

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Originally Posted by Sypherious

Hey there, why don't you try using Shadow Form instead of judging it without trying it. Because that's what it really sounds like.

Most people who want SF nerfed don't have factions, and are jealous of other people using it.

Use it, then report back here, and tell us your opinion.

But i DO use it.
I used it A LOT before the buff, it was a very very powerful and useful skill before the buff, for a lot of tasks. I did my Legendary Cartographer almost entirely on a SF based running build, I ran 6k chests for Treasure Hunter on a SF running build, I farmed a lot of bosses, other specific farms and thousands of raptors, made big money on using this skill, all that before the buff, without the need of infinite maintaining it.
And I DO keep using it now, the imba way! The profits are just crazy, far better than anything in the last year+.
And I easily see that what's going on is just wrong, degenerate, bad for the game.

And I demand a nerf:

Bring it back to old duration and add a "This skill is disabled for 60 seconds", and it will still be an EXCELLENT SKILL for a lot of uses. Just not absuridiculous infinite imba.

And there are more skills that should be looked at and nerfed, not only this. There should be a fine line at what is accepted for solo farming, as solofarming should remain a viable playstyle, but it should require skill and it's effectiveness should be somewhat limited.

Sypherious · Jun 15, 2008, 02:01 AM // 02:01

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Originally Posted by Yawgmoth

But i DO use it.
I used it A LOT before the buff, it was a very very powerful and useful skill before the buff, for a lot of tasks. I did my Legendary Cartographer almost entirely on a SF based running build, I ran 6k chests for Treasure Hunter on a SF running build, I farmed a lot of bosses, other specific farms and thousands of raptors, made big money on using this skill, all that before the buff, without the need of infinite maintaining it.
And I DO keep using it now, the imba way! The profits are just crazy, far better than anything in the last year+.
And I easily see that what's going on is just wrong, degenerate, bad for the game.

And I demand a nerf:

Bring it back to old duration and add a "This skill is disabled for 60 seconds", and it will still be an EXCELLENT SKILL for a lot of uses. Just not absuridiculous infinite imba.

And there are more skills that should be looked at and nerfed, not only this. There should be a fine line at what is accepted for solo farming, as solofarming should remain a viable playstyle, but it should require skill and it's effectiveness should be somewhat limited.

ugh, You make tons of money, but you demand anet to make it so you cant make as much. You make no sense, im sorry.

Yawgmoth · Jun 15, 2008, 02:46 AM // 02:46

I make no sense in that I see issues much more important than my own profit?
That I actually care about the game as a whole?
I'd rather be poor and play a great balanced game than filthy rich in a bad degenerate game.

Alex the Great · Jun 15, 2008, 03:15 AM // 03:15

i'd be fine if they nerfed all farm, because i'm to lazy to farm for money.

but that's selfish, why would I want to take something away from someone that dosn't affect me?

buddy, THIS DOSN'T AFFECT YOU, OR ME, OR ANYONE ELSE WHO "Isn't jealous".

Kanyatta · Jun 15, 2008, 03:29 AM // 03:29

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Originally Posted by Sypherious

Buy factions, make a sin and use it. You won't be QQ'ing then.

So, you're theory is, 2 wrongs make a right?

BLOODGOAT · Jun 15, 2008, 04:12 AM // 04:12

Everyone needs to stop shedding so many god damn tears. No one cares if you BAWWWWWW because we use a different godmode to farm as a sin comparative to a monk. Don't virtually all farm builds revolve around the concept of a godmode set of 3 or 4 skills, backed up by 4 or 5 attack skills to destroy what you are attempting to farm? If you want a nerf to SF on the basis that it is a team game, you might as well petition for a nerf to every single solo farming build ever created and still viably used.

pce~ez 55 builds
pce~ez SF builds
pce~ez VwK builds
pce~ez Terra builds
pce~ez farming

And as unrelated as this is, phan, can you please learn typography? I don't like seeing a space before and after every grammatical character in every post you make. In fact, it makes my eyes want to bleed and makes me RAGE when I read anything you have to say. Then again, you may just be a troll. If so, 10/10.

Nevertheless,
/unsigned

As cliche of a response as it is, no one is forcing you to solo play so stop trying to ruin it for the people who want to. Its not my fault if everyone else sucks and makes 8-man FoW clears an abysmal experience at best. I bet anyone /signing for this is also the kind of person who /unsigned for 7-hero teams, or support the idea of abolishing the hero/henchmen system completely. But that's just an assumption. Who knows, I still might be right.

HawkofStorms · Jun 15, 2008, 06:09 AM // 06:09

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Originally Posted by Sypherious

Hey there, why don't you try using Shadow Form instead of judging it without trying it. Because that's what it really sounds like.

Most people who want SF nerfed don't have factions, and are jealous of other people using it.

Use it, then report back here, and tell us your opinion.

Right... I mean, I had Factions the first day it came out and had a sin up and running (who was also my first character to beat NF, and 2nd to beat GW:EN). And I've tried out the new farm.
And *gasp* I still think perma-SF is overpowered.

Insulting people as "jealous" or "qqers" or "cry babies" instead of actually addressing the points in the arguement is the worst form of logistical arguement. Ad homenum attacks are the lowest common denominator. Please don't sink that low.

Patsrule711 · Jun 15, 2008, 01:13 PM // 13:13

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Originally Posted by A Leprechaun

I do not know why you play or what you enjoy, but I enjoy playing warrior, buying him items and armour and capping elites.
I use my Sin to farm to earn money to buy things for my warrior, simple as. If Shadow Form was nerfed then it would be harder to earn the amount of money to buy what I want, but it would still be possible it would just take longer. If I had to spend ages and ages farming for the things I want I would, but tbh I am already bored with GW..
To be honest I don't care what you think, I love Shadow Form as it is. How does it actually affect you?

~A Leprechaun~

same here using sin to buy my warrior nice stuff. A/e uw is a lot more fun then W/rt and has much better results.